Thursday, July 7, 2011
Et tu, Wastewater Collection?
Wednesday, July 6, 2011
Poop and Population
Carolyn,When the house was bought there had at one time been a half bath down there in the shop. Toilet and sink were replaced when the downstairs was remodeled. That was around 2000 or 2001. Never had any problems with it draining or anything. But then there were only 2 people living there. Never dug any sewer lines, just set toilet on existing pipe in downstairs.I bet there is a septic tank back there and that is what that one half bath was piped into. It probably has collapsed and that is probably the problem.. Remember there was a well on that property also out in the front where that slab of concrete is.* * *Hope this helps..Belinda
RS-50 Residential single-family: This district provides areas for primarily low density single-family detached dwellings . . .
The definitions in the zoning ordinance provide:
Family: Any number of people related by blood, marriage, legal guardianship, or adoption or not more than four (4) unrelated persons living together as a single housekeeping unit, using a single facility in a dwelling unit for culinary purposes. The term "family" shall not be construed to include a fraternity or sorority, club, roominghouse, institutional group or the like.Dwelling, single-family: Where used in this Code, it shall mean single-family attached, single-family detached and single-family semidetached.
Tuesday, July 5, 2011
Some Action; Maybe Some Progress
Carolyn here, with contributions from John:
Email to the Mayor Gets Action
Here is yesterday’s email to the Mayor (and a lot of other people):
The house next door has raw sewage running into the back yard, where it feeds a jungle of weeds. The owner put in the current cesspits (and a downstairs bathroom) without a permit and without an inspection by Code Enforcement. The occupants have two dogs that have bit me in my own driveway and attacked a friend out on the street. This is just the current state of a public nuisance that has been going on for over four years. Do you doubt that if any of this happened next door to the Mayor the City would have it fixed in a matter of days?
In this situation there is only one question to be asked: What is wrong with Code Enforcement and the Health Department? I don't know the answer so I suggest you go ask them.
9:58 AM today: Carolyn was walking Mario. Emily Deere (phonetic spelling), a lawyer with the Health Dept., left a voice mail requesting permission for Erika Frotman to walk on Carolyn’s property to reinspect 6003.
10:21 AM: Called Frotman's cell phone. She said she was on her way over. Told her she had permission to walk on Carolyn’s land.
10:43: Frotman and two men showed up in front of 6003. James came out and they walked toward his back yard.
10:48: James walked all three back to their van.
But no Results from Health or Code
10:49: Knocked on Carolyn’s door
Bill Davidson Code Enforcement
Erika Frotman
Doug King Environmental Supervisor, not Frotman’s supervisor, who is out of town
Said they had done the inspection in back yard, picked up pieces of fence, jumped on it, no visual evidence of sewage, no odor. King complained that my blog said sewage was there now.
Davidson said he was going to write up the code infractions he saw and was going to try to get some money (from city? some fund?) to paint the house.
Davidson said James told him that he did not add the bathroom just put a toilet in it so they can't move on that. Davidson also said James did not need a permit for the repair.
Sewage there now?
Scroll down and you’ll see that this blog talks about specific incidents when there was raw sewage on the ground. It talks about the owner’s repairs and the very healthy weeds growing (1) where the sewage was on the ground next to the house and (2) at the end of the trench the owner dug to repair the system. The blog below (and the email to the Mayor) says there is sewage running into the back yard. Looking at the weeds it is manifest that there either is a cesspit back there or the new pipe is reconnected to an old pipe that is leaking. The fencing on the ground (at the end but not along the length of the ditch) suggests it’s the cesspit.
It’s interesting that Code earlier (ca. 2 years ago) cited the house for paint and it still has not been painted. If you'll look here, you'll see where the neighbors, before complaining to Code, offered to buy the paint and help apply it but James refused.
Did Not Install the Bathroom?
Both James and his (now ex-) wife have said that James himself put in the downstairs half bath. Zillow, however, says 1-1/2 baths, so we may be wrong about this one.
Does not need a permit?
Let’s start with the Tampa Code of Ordinances:
5-105.1 - When required.
Any owner or authorized agent who intends to construct, enlarge, alter, repair, move, demolish, or change the occupancy of a building or structure, or to erect, install, enlarge, alter, repair, remove, convert or replace any required impact-resistant coverings, electrical, gas, mechanical or plumbing system, the installation of which is regulated by this code, or to cause any such work to be done, or to do any site related work shall first make application to the building official and obtain the required permit. (emphasis supplied).
That’s clear enough: If you are going to repair the plumbing, you need a permit. Perhaps there’s an exception?
5-105.2. - Work exempt from permits.
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3. Plumbing.
(a) The repair of leaks, unstopping of sewers or waste pipes, repairing faucets or valves or cleaning of a septic tank where such work is located within the property lines, or for the stopping of leaks in drains, soil waste or vent pipe; provided, that should any trap, drain pipe, soil waste or vent pipe be or become defective and it becomes necessary to remove and replace the same with new materials in any part or parts, the same shall be considered as new work.
(b) The clearing of stoppage, or the repairing of leaks in pipes, valves or fixtures, when such repairs do not involve or require the replacement of fixtures.
Back when he dug the trenches, James told Carolyn that he was going to pick up the new pipe. This repair, then, was more than a clearing of stoppage; this was a repair with new pipe installed, to be treated as “new work.” That means it needed a permit. And needing a permit means the work was to be inspected:
5-109.1. - General.
Construction or work for which a permit is required shall be subject to inspection by the building official and such construction or work shall remain accessible and exposed for inspection purposes until approved.
5-109.3. – Required inspections
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Plumbing
3.1. Underground inspection: To be made after trenches or ditches are excavated, piping installed and tested, and before any backfill is put in place.
Code nonEnforcement
So what do we have here:
· Davidson adopts the standard that if you can’t see or smell sewage, there’s no problem.
· Davidson says that no inspection is required for a repair that the law requires to be inspected.
· Davidson ignores the clear evidence of the weeds and the fence on the ground.
But Wastewater Collection is Another Story
About noon Frank James, a Maintenance Supervisor with Wastewater Collection Systems, and three workmen showed up in the street in front of 6003. Mr. James said they were there to see if 6003 is discharging to the sewer.
They went for lunch and one of workmen came back with their camera on a long, flexible probe. The kind (he shared his insect repellent) and helpful workman showed Carolyn the view: The 6” pipe to the sewer is fed, just a few feet from the sewer, by a 4” pipe. The camera would not go all the way up to the house because it wouldn’t go into the 4” pipe. The workman said the haze in the pipe – it looked like cigarette smoke - was condensation, which often indicates a break. As well, the camera showed dirt in the 6” pipe, apparently coming out of or from around the 4” pipe.
He said it looks like a blockage, maybe a break. They will come back some time when somebody is at home so they can flush a toilet and see what, if anything, comes through.
The nobody home problem poses an interesting puzzle. Carolyn saw the owner getting his mail just as the City workman was arriving behind the house. Some fifteen minutes later, the workman knocked on the door to get access to a toilet and (1) there was no answer and (2) the dogs did not bark. When nobody is home, those dogs bark when Carolyn walks in her back yard. These data suggest that the owner was home but hiding out. Sigh.
John here. The 4"/6" pipes suggest three possibilities:
- 6003 is not connected to the sewer at all. Call this the cesspit theory.
- The owner connected a 4" pipe to the house and stuck it into the existing 6" sewer pipe w/o sealing it off. That would explain why the 4" pipe goes almost all the way to the sewer.
- Same as #2 but there is a break in the 4" pipe.
Stay tuned.
Sunday, July 3, 2011
Organic Fertilizer in the Yard
I asked Carolyn to shoot a picture through the fence at 6003 to get a measure of the height of the sewage-fertilized weeds there. She sent along this one, which provided the bonus information that there is a nice tree limb now serving to trash the yard:
Friday, July 1, 2011
Dog Days in Seminole Heights
The latest couple to move into James' house has two dogs. The dogs are in the house most of the time but occasionally they would be tethered on the south side of the house. There is a fence but it had some gaps so the dogs needed to be tied.
One Sunday afternoon in mid-April, I was walking up my driveway with my little dog, Mario.
Somebody next door untied the two dogs. Both then attacked me and my dog, in my own yard. I got two bites on my legs while Mario had a puncture wound on his shoulder.
I called Animal Control. It turned out that neither dog had been given a rabies shot so I spent eleven of the longest days ever while they were quarantined in James' house. Just to enhance the wait, the tetanus shot cost me a $25 copay and left me feeling crummy for a few days. After what seemed like forever, the public health officer, the feckless Erika Frotman (yes, the same one who can't find shit), cleared the dogs as being rabies free.
James repaired the fence to the south of the house and also around the front yard, so I thought the dog problem was solved. Then, three weeks ago a friend walked out of my house to his car on the street and here came both dogs. I told him to either get in the car or on it. He jumped on the hood while James and Jessica collared the dogs, Jessica saying all the time that they do not bite. Pants on fire.
It is set for court in August on what appears to be a civil complaint. Perhaps we'll learn then whether Animal Control is as useless as Code Enforcement and the Health Department.
Note added on Aug 20: I (at last) figured out how to access the Tampa court records. It seems that Judge Nazarettian talks a better case than he judges: The fine was only $25 (the same as the copay on Carolyn's tetanus shot) plus $110 in costs. Sigh.
Thursday, June 30, 2011
Plus c’est la meme chose
Thursday, June 23, I was walking my little dog in my backyard when I noticed a roughly circular area next to the back of James' house where the vegetation was dead. Around that circle the vegetation was growing lushly, as if receiving lots of water and natural fertilizer. In the middle there were several wads of wet toilet paper. Steve took this picture and tells me the white blob bottom center is TP:
Note the lush foliage. My brother, the retired lawyer for the Virginia State Water Control Board, tells me the clincher will come when pepper or tomato plants emerge from that miasmatic swamp. But, given the history we don't have to wait for that to have an opinion: Looks like the septic pit has failed. Time for another complaint to the feckless Frotman and to Code nonEnforcement.
See no Shit; Smell no Shit; Don’t Do Shit
After the media exposure last year, Judy and her kids moved out to a house in Carrollwood (Section 8? In Carrollwood??). Her oldest son, Josh, then moved back in at 6003 with his pregnant girlfriend for a few months. Although the house was still multicolored with screens from the second floor lying on the roof of the porch and part of the porch rotting out, it was at least quiet.
For a while.
Josh purchased a car which he parked front out in James' driveway. He moved his speakers from upstairs into the car and begin to play rap with the bass boosted so high that my windows rattled. After several weeks of this James asked him to leave. Shortly thereafter, Jessica, another pregnant young woman, moved in with her boyfriend and a couple of dogs.
About this time, summer, 2010, I was having all of my plumbing replaced. I kept smelling sewage but assumed it was from my pipes. My plumber took me out one morning and pointed out a pile of feces and toilet paper next to James' house just a few feet from my property line.
I emailed a complaint to Code Enforcement. Shortly thereafter I noticed that James had piled dirt on top of the sewage so it was not noticeable. Apparently Code signed off on the problem as solved.
Within a couple of days the sewage had again begun to accumulate. With the raw sewage came a horde of flies. I stopped going in my back yard or using my clothesline for fear of disease from the flies going from the feces to me or my dog. Aside from having my own back yard off limits, I was concerned about a pregnant woman living with raw sewage but she did not seem concerned or at least not enough to move out.
In February the pile was growing as were the flies so I wrote out another Code complaint (February 14, 2011), called the Health Department, and sent an email outlining the situation to my city council member, Charlie Miranda. On the 15th Erika Frotman, from the Health Department, came by and took pictures of the pile of shit next door and said she would move on it as fast as possible (“fast” in her case seems to mean months). More helpfully, one of Mr. Miranda'a aides thought this was as disgusting as I did and had wastewater and Code out here within a few days. The wastewater people checked the sewage pipe in the alley and determined that it was functional and that James could hook up a pipe. The gentleman from Code was not pleased with all the Code infractions he could see from the street. He told me he would address the problems immediately.
The Health Department sent James a letter and several weeks later came out to do another inspection. Dirt had been piled on top of the sewage so they “could not do anything.” I gave them a call several days later to come again as the sewage was piling up on top of the dirt again. They did and sent another letter. When this got no results they turned the case over to their legal department. They sent a letter and James started digging and, he said, putting in a sewage pipe.
When I went out and looked he had only dug a trench about half way to the city pipe and had placed two pieces of his wooden fence over the end of the trench and another about two feet toward the house. I asked my plumber to come out and look at it; he and I both think that James ran a pipe out and then dug a cesspit.

With the two recent rains, the dirt under the closer pieces of fence is beginning to sink in and the fencing partly obscures it. When I showed it to the health department, Ms. Frotman said that as long as there was no sewage visible all she could do was close the case as in compliance.
My neighbor and I get to smell it
So there you have it: A house bubbling sewage into the back yard. A homebrew repair. No building permit. No inspection. And a Health Dept. inspector who can’t see or smell, and won’t do anything about, raw sewage on the ground. And for this we pay taxes!
Sunday, October 4, 2009
St. Pete Times
...before someone gets their teeth knocked out
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